PMedMoe said:Wait, didn't you ask this question
engineer1 said:Since AERE is closed for this year I was interviewed for and going ahead with the ACSO option now. Now my question is that what are the careers available for ACSO's after they leave the forces? I want to do masters in engineering in aerospace engineering later in the future. Does this will help me with that?
gcclarke said:If by your last question, you are asking whether or not the CF will sponsor you for Post-Graduate education in Aerospace Engineering while serving as a ACSO, then your answer is no. Those opportunities are reserved for AEREs only. There are a number of other post-grad degrees in different fields that an ACSO can apply for while serving. If you would like, I can forward you the entire list.
SupersonicMax said:PG opportunities are for every trade. Not only AEREs.
hauger said:It's not a dying trade, but with 436 posting out their ACSO's, isn't there a slight surplus in ACSO manpower?
CDN Aviator said:Dont forget that the CP-140 community is in the middle of a switchover from ACSO to AES Op when it comes to the ASO seats. This further reduces the number of ACSO positions in line sqns.
SupersonicMax said:It's University Specific. It is possible for trades other than Engineering to do Engineering PG.
What if I want to do a Masters of Aerospace Science and Engineering at UoT?
2. THE PGT (SPONSORED) PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO SELECT SUITABLE CANDIDATES FOR PGT IN A RELEVANT OCCUPATION SPECIALTY QUALIFICATION (OSQ) FOR SUBSEQUENT EMPLOYMENT IN A SPECIFICALLY ANNOTATED ESTABLISHMENT POSN REQUIRING SUCH TRG. THE POSNS FOR WHICH PGT IS INTENDED TO COMMENCE IN 2010 ARE INDICATED AT THE END OF THIS MSG, ALONG WITH THE MOSID AND RANK(S) APPLICABLE TO EACH OSQ. APPLICATIONS WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED FOR THE OSQ LISTED IN THIS MSG, AND ONLY FROM APPLICANTS OF THE APPLICABLE MOSID AND RANK FOR EACH OSQ, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT MBRS ONE RANK BELOW MAY BE CONSIDERED IF DEEMED APPROPRIATE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT POSN.
Q7:Will DMCA 5 consider university choices outside of those advertised in the annual competition message?
It generally comes down to cost. Tuition can represent a substantial portion of our overall program cost, therefore we will attempt to utilize RMC whenever possible. Where it can be shown more cost effective to send an applicant to a university within the geographical boundary of the applicant's present posting or the position to be filled, then DMCA 5 will definitely consider the request in consultation with the sponsor.
ACSO is a trade that is not heavy on flying but on ops on aircrafts, seriously, if you want to be a pilot, I suggest you either wait until they hire, or get the training yourself...
gcclarke said:Unless I am sorely mistaken, the Post-Graduate Training Program (Sponsored) is the only method via which one can attend a university full time for the purpose of completing a Master's degree, without having to take leave without pay, with the CF covering the education expenses. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this point, because as I've mentioned before, our regulations are rather Byzantine in nature, and it's entirely possible that I missed a CFAO or DAOD covering another program that does the same thing.
SeaKingTacco said:I was going to stay out of this thread, but things are starting to get ridiculous.
First, ACSO is not a "dying" trade. It is an Occupation that about 100 people short (out of about 600 total), so yeah, we are starting to hurt. The whole reason for the occupation for the occupation is flying. I have 1600 hours. Most of my contemporaries have much more. You will fly as an ACSO.
Second, ACSO throughput at 1 CFFTS last year was 18 Canadians. This year looks to be about 24. Next year-who knows? Our ability to absorb people on Sqn is only slightly above this number (that said- every Sqn that I am aware of is short of ACSOs). At least it will be until the UAV Operator stream comes online. Although the ACSO role is being reduced on the Aurora, it is not going away.
Canadian.Trucker said:I understand this is a fairly old thread, but in the search function it appeared to be the closest to what I'm looking for answers on.
I'm flirting with the idea of a CT in the near future to ACSO. While I am fully aware that only after I put the CT in, have my file reviewed and perhaps receive an offer that I would know anything for sure, I would still be interested to find out any information from anyone that has undergone the process of CT'ing to ACSO after being fully qualified in another officer trade. I'm curious as to such things like rank retention (currently a Captain, so would the expectation be for me to drop to Lt, 2Lt or perhaps retain my current rank?) Every case is different and based on an individual file review, but personal stories to get a feel for what to expect (or by current ACSO's with knowledge) is appreciated. I do know as well that moving from Army to Air Force everything after BMOQ is different, so I'm under no illusions to have anything written off.