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A400M Rollout

Jim Seggie said:
How much testing does a ne a/c like this require and how soon do you guys think it will be ready to sell?

There was something on ARES back before XMAS . . .  memory says about 4500hrs test program.

The aircraft are presold . . . and not much prospect right now of any more/new sales.  The original deal was for 180 (?) aircraft and some have been canceled due to the extensive development delays.

 
AWST back in November.

2700hrs to get a Civilian certification, probably close to that again to get it Military Mission testing done.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/awst/2010/11/01/AW_11_01_2010_p42-265722.xml&headline=Airbus%20To%20Ramp%20Up%20A400M%20Test%20Effort&next=0
 
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Billion-Euro Bailout


A400M Military Transport Plane Saved in Seville

04/07/2011
Spiegel ONLINE

LINK

For a while, it looked like the Airbus A400M transport plane was going to end up on the drawing room floor. But several European countries that have ordered the plane backed a deal on Thursday covering 3.5 billion euros worth of cost overruns. Airbus Military say the first planes will be delivered in late 2012.

The Airbus military transport plane A400M can seemingly do it all. It can lift 37 tons, it can fly 8,700 kilometers (5,400 miles) without refueling, and it can land on rough, unpaved landing strips.

One thing it hasn't been able to do, though, is make the leap from the drawing board to the market. But, on Thursday, European countries interested in stocking up their military transport capabilities with the new plane provided their formal support for a €3.5 billion ($5 billion) deal to rescue the over-budget, overdue project.

"Challenges are here to overcome, and today we can say this challenge has been concluded," Airbus Military head Domingo Urena said on Thursday after the deal was signed in Seville, Spain.

The deal finalizes a preliminary agreement reached last November -- itself a renegotiated version of a deal hammered out in Feb. 2010 -- that calls for the seven European countries awaiting deliveries of the plane to help cover gaping cost overruns.

As part of the deal, Germany agrees to purchase 53 of the planes, or seven fewer than it had originally ordered. Owing to Defense Ministry cuts, 40 of these 53 planes will be delivered to the German air force, and the rest will be sold to other countries.

Years Behind Schedule

Britain has reduced its order by three planes, to 22. Other countries involved in the deal are France, Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg and Turkey.

Airbus Military originally contracted to deliver 170 planes by 2010 at a total cost of €20 billion. But problems with development -- particularly related to the plane's turbo-prop engines and the software developed to run them -- resulted in at least €5 billion worth of cost overruns. Some estimates have placed the additional expenses at twice that amount.

In its defense, the company has argued that the financial problems were exacerbated by European insistence that the engines be developed and produced in the European Union rather than ordered from the US-based supplier Pratt & Whitney.

The project, launched in 2003, was almost cancelled altogether in 2009, when delays led several buyers to threaten to withdraw their orders. The first test flight finally took place in December of 2009, fully two years behind schedule. Now, initial deliveries are scheduled for the very end of 2012.

Despite the project's significant growing pains, the plane itself has been widely praised and has been performing well in ongoing tests. The A400M program is also expected to support 40,000 jobs in Europe by 2016.

cgh -- with wire reports
 
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Up close with a Grizzly; first flight on an A400M

By Craig Hoyle

on March 4, 2013 1:43 PM | Permalink | Comments () | TrackBacks (0) |

The UK's signature of two new contracts linked to its A400M acquisition prompted Airbus Military to fly development aircraft "Grizzly 4" to the Royal Air Force's Brize Norton base in Oxfordshire on 1 March.

This was good news not only because it gave military types the opportunity to see inside the new-generation transport during an open-ramp visit, and also for at least one of the RAF's future "Atlas" pilots to get some flight time at the controls, but as they also took a handful of UK journalists flying for the first time; me included.

Airbus's chief military test pilot Ed Strongman headed the crew which brought EC-404 to a chilly Brize from Toulouse, France. The aircraft carries a light load of flight test instrumentation and associated equipment, which still allowed a British armoured vehicle (a Jackal, I think) to be trial-loaded and removed ahead of our test ride.

Here's some video footage from the day that I compiled and have pulled together with the help of our clever technical people in the office. And thanks to one of our friends at Airbus Military's media team for also taking the camera for part of the filming.


Also, here are some of my first impressions about flying aboard an Atlas (please bear in mind that I'm not a test pilot, folks):

The cargo hold is large and uncluttered, and the seating installed along its sides is both roomy and comfortable. The four-point passenger harness is also considerably easier to use than the more fiddly style familiar on the C-130.

Also with regard to passenger comfort, I was interested to find out whether the company's claims about low noise in the hold would stack up (it previously ditched plans to add active noise cancellation equipment, saying it wasn't needed).

I didn't wear, or need, ear protection during our 1h sortie, and could hear the shouted instructions from the loadmaster from his position near the tail ramp prior to take off, despite the fact that all four engines were running and that I was sat just ahead of them. Acceleration and climb-out were swift, with plenty of engine response, and once up to height noise levels were not unlike being onboard a turboprop airliner. And with a load of equipment in the hold, that should improve.

Having the tail ramp open made noise more of an issue, but was by no measure unpleasant from where I was sitting. I didn't get to stand on the ramp due to a shortage of harnesses, but maybe next time?

Heading up to the flight deck via a narrow set of steps above the loadmaster station, it was striking to see how spacious the Atlas cockpit is, and also how much glass there is - crew visibility looks to be excellent.

In summary, the aircraft's cargo hold is spacious, well lit and comfortable to travel in, and the transport feels to have plenty of agility and throttle response. I'm pretty sure that any RAF pilots or loadmasters currently operating the service's legacy C-130Ks, TriStars and VC10s who have the chance to transition to the Atlas will be looking forward to it arriving on the ramp at Brize for real in September 2014.

More at article link including photo's and video of A400M landing and in flight.
 
Hmmm...lots of comparisons / superlatives compared to the C-130 -- not that the business case was to 1:1 replace the C-130.  Didn't hear that 'other' plane mentioned, though....you know, the one with pallets of airline comfort seats, etc...  Heck, not even any mention of the C-160 Transall.
 
wee update

Airbus Risks A400M Penalty Claims By Partner Nations
(Source: Defense-Aerospace.com; published March 06, 2015)

By Giovanni de Briganti
BORDEAUX, France --- The uneasy truce between Airbus Group and the A400M partner nations over delayed deliveries and performance shortfalls has flared up after a late February meeting in Berlin failed to provide a satisfactory response to outstanding issues.

Airbus “had nothing to tell us about deliveries or about the missing military capabilities,” French defense procurement chief Laurent Collet-Billon said here March 4. “We will have to hit them with penalties and interest charges to make them understand just how unhappy we are.”

Airbus, the prime contractor for the A400 program, has been running late on deliveries as it struggles with an underperforming supply chain and with quality control issues at its own production plants as well as its final assembly lines at Seville, Spain. It is also late in qualifying the aircraft for military capabilities beyond the basic transport mission, which severely limits the productivity of the aircraft already delivered.

At the Berlin meeting, Airbus failed to provide the main A400M partner nations with a revised schedule for future deliveries and for expanding military capabilities.

“We are also not happy with the performance of Airbus on the A400M deliveries, and we are working hard with them and with the other nations to solve the problems and avoid other problems in future,” a spokesperson for the German defense ministry said March 6.

rest at link http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/feature/5/161581/partner-nations-may-apply-penalty-clauses-to-a400m-program.html
 
Guess there is a difference between Gaulic and Teutonic approaches re: Airbus Group.

France:
We will have to hit them with penalties and interest charges to make them understand just how unhappy we are.

Germany:
...we are working hard with them and with the other nations to solve the problems and avoid other problems in future...
 
Germany has expended all its frustration and desire to punish on Greece.
 
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