Ricks Napkin Forces Challenge Part 2 BIG Numbers
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The newly elected majority government just changed the rules.
But if forced to maintain a standing military then I'd go very heavy on regular force Air/Sea power to protect our large expanses of coastline/waters and airspace. With the numbers and ability to support allied expeditionary forces.
For the ground force, I'd go light on regs and heavy on reserves. It would not be expeditionary, but rather home defence focused. And you can get creative with that.
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Oh now I need to dig out my Napkin Army again...
50k Reg, 100k Res, 35 GOFO, and I didn't see a limit on Civilians
DEFCOM - Defence Command - Joint HQ Cell for all 7 Branches (1,000 Reg Force pers, 1,000 civilian)
Gen as CDC (Chairman of Defence Command), Lt Gen as VCDC, 7 BG (9 GOFO at DEFCOM)
5 BG slots as Exchange/Liason Officers (NATO/NOARD etc).
TSA - Tactical Support Aviation: Rotary Wing, Fixed Wing Ground Support, UAS, GeoSpacial (4,000 Regular Force, 10,000 Reserve, 1,000 Civilian) MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
MH-60 10 Sqn (18 / sqn 6/troop)
MH-47 3 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
AH-1 4 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
MQ-1D UAV 6 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
CSOC: Canadian Special Operations Command: (2,000 Regular Force, 1,000 Reserve, 500 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
DATF (Direct Action Task Force)
3 Squadrons of Assaulters; each with 2 40 pers Troops - total 300 pers (inc Staff and LO)
1 Troop from each OP Sqn is on IRU with monthly rotations.
A Sqn - Training CFB Petawawa
B Sqn - Classified
C Sqn - Classified
AFO: Advance Force Operations
3 Squadrons of Operators; each with 2 40 pers Troops - total 300 pers (Inc staff and LO)
D Sqn - Counter Revolutionary Warfare
E Sqn - Russian Development Group - troops rotating on a NOC role through Russia etc.
Prep to sabotage, assassinate, and hamper Russian operations from inside their borders.
F Sqn - Training and Support.
HIG: Human Intelligence Group
4 Squadrons focus on Human Source Collection 80 pers / SQN 400 pers total (inc staff and LO)
G Sqn Eastern Canada Domestic
H Sqn Western Canada Domestic
I Sqn Vancouver - Overseas AOR
J Sqn Vancouver - Training, Support and Language School
SIG: Signals Intelligence Group
Ottawa - with deployable cells to support ops as needed (300 pers)
ISR: Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance
3 Deployable Groups and 1 Training Group - 200 pers
Some civilian fixed and rotary wing assets for low visibility observation, as well as radar, and UAV
JCG: Joint Communications Group
4 deployable groups and 1 training group - 200 personnel
MSG: Mobility Support Group
Overt and Covert Mobility Support - 100 personnel
4 Ground Support Teams
4 Marine Support Teams
EMG: Emergency Medical Group
4 Deployable Surgical Teams - and 1 Training Group - 100 personnel
ASP: Airborne Support Package
500 Pers under a COL -
18x MH-60G PaveHawk
18x MH-47F
18x A/MH-6 Little Bird
Nondescript Civilian AC as well.
CA: Canadian Army: Conventional Army Force: (15,000 Regular Force, 45,000 Reserve, 2,500 Civilian ) 1 Cdn Army Corps.
LtGen, 3MG , 6 BG (10 GOFO)
- work in progress
RCAF: Royal Canadian Air Force: Fixed Wing Transport, Support and Air Defence Fighters) (10,000 Regular Force, 15,000 Res, 2,500 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
C-17 x12: 9@ CFB Trenton, and 3 OPCOM to CSOC 1@ CFB Petawawa (new airfield required)
MRTT x12: @ CFB Trenton 1 on 5min NTM 1 on 30min NTM
E-8 x5: @ CFB Trenton 1 up 24/7
P-8 x 18: 5@ Vancouver 5@ Victoria 5@Summerside PEI, 3 for Training/Maintenance
MC-130H x30: 10 @ CFB Trenton (15 OPCOM to CSOC: 5 @ each of Calgary, Montreal, Petawawa) and 5 @ NorthBay (Training)
F-35 x 120 (Sqns at Victoria, Cold Lake, MooseJaw, NorthBay, Baggotville, Gander)
RCN: Royal Canadian Navy (10,000 Regular Force, 12,000 Reserve, 3,000 Civilian)
RAdm, Commodore as XO (2 GOFO)
VA Class SSN x 10 (3 West Coast, 3 East Coast, 3 Arctic, 1 training/spare)
AOPS x 10 (3 West Coast, 3 East Coast, 3 Arctic, 1 training/spare)
CSC x 15 (6 West Coast, 6 East Coast and 2 training/1 spare each w/ SH-60 MH Det's
Fast Combat Support Ship x3 2 West Coats and 1 East Coast
RTC: Recruiting and Training Command (2,000 Reg Force pers, 2,000 Res, 500 Civilian)
BGen, COL as XO (1 GOFO)
SPC: Support Command (6,000 Regular Force, 15,000 Reserve, 3,000 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
50k Reg, 100k Res, 35 GOFO, and I didn't see a limit on Civilians
DEFCOM - Defence Command - Joint HQ Cell for all 7 Branches (1,000 Reg Force pers, 1,000 civilian)
Gen as CDC (Chairman of Defence Command), Lt Gen as VCDC, 7 BG (9 GOFO at DEFCOM)
5 BG slots as Exchange/Liason Officers (NATO/NOARD etc).
TSA - Tactical Support Aviation: Rotary Wing, Fixed Wing Ground Support, UAS, GeoSpacial (4,000 Regular Force, 10,000 Reserve, 1,000 Civilian) MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
MH-60 10 Sqn (18 / sqn 6/troop)
MH-47 3 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
AH-1 4 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
MQ-1D UAV 6 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
CSOC: Canadian Special Operations Command: (2,000 Regular Force, 1,000 Reserve, 500 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
DATF (Direct Action Task Force)
3 Squadrons of Assaulters; each with 2 40 pers Troops - total 300 pers (inc Staff and LO)
1 Troop from each OP Sqn is on IRU with monthly rotations.
A Sqn - Training CFB Petawawa
B Sqn - Classified
C Sqn - Classified
AFO: Advance Force Operations
3 Squadrons of Operators; each with 2 40 pers Troops - total 300 pers (Inc staff and LO)
D Sqn - Counter Revolutionary Warfare
E Sqn - Russian Development Group - troops rotating on a NOC role through Russia etc.
Prep to sabotage, assassinate, and hamper Russian operations from inside their borders.
F Sqn - Training and Support.
HIG: Human Intelligence Group
4 Squadrons focus on Human Source Collection 80 pers / SQN 400 pers total (inc staff and LO)
G Sqn Eastern Canada Domestic
H Sqn Western Canada Domestic
I Sqn Vancouver - Overseas AOR
J Sqn Vancouver - Training, Support and Language School
SIG: Signals Intelligence Group
Ottawa - with deployable cells to support ops as needed (300 pers)
ISR: Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance
3 Deployable Groups and 1 Training Group - 200 pers
Some civilian fixed and rotary wing assets for low visibility observation, as well as radar, and UAV
JCG: Joint Communications Group
4 deployable groups and 1 training group - 200 personnel
MSG: Mobility Support Group
Overt and Covert Mobility Support - 100 personnel
4 Ground Support Teams
4 Marine Support Teams
EMG: Emergency Medical Group
4 Deployable Surgical Teams - and 1 Training Group - 100 personnel
ASP: Airborne Support Package
500 Pers under a COL -
18x MH-60G PaveHawk
18x MH-47F
18x A/MH-6 Little Bird
Nondescript Civilian AC as well.
CA: Canadian Army: Conventional Army Force: (15,000 Regular Force, 45,000 Reserve, 2,500 Civilian ) 1 Cdn Army Corps.
LtGen, 3MG , 6 BG (10 GOFO)
- work in progress
RCAF: Royal Canadian Air Force: Fixed Wing Transport, Support and Air Defence Fighters) (10,000 Regular Force, 15,000 Res, 2,500 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
C-17 x12: 9@ CFB Trenton, and 3 OPCOM to CSOC 1@ CFB Petawawa (new airfield required)
MRTT x12: @ CFB Trenton 1 on 5min NTM 1 on 30min NTM
E-8 x5: @ CFB Trenton 1 up 24/7
P-8 x 18: 5@ Vancouver 5@ Victoria 5@Summerside PEI, 3 for Training/Maintenance
MC-130H x30: 10 @ CFB Trenton (15 OPCOM to CSOC: 5 @ each of Calgary, Montreal, Petawawa) and 5 @ NorthBay (Training)
F-35 x 120 (Sqns at Victoria, Cold Lake, MooseJaw, NorthBay, Baggotville, Gander)
RCN: Royal Canadian Navy (10,000 Regular Force, 12,000 Reserve, 3,000 Civilian)
RAdm, Commodore as XO (2 GOFO)
VA Class SSN x 10 (3 West Coast, 3 East Coast, 3 Arctic, 1 training/spare)
AOPS x 10 (3 West Coast, 3 East Coast, 3 Arctic, 1 training/spare)
CSC x 15 (6 West Coast, 6 East Coast and 2 training/1 spare each w/ SH-60 MH Det's
Fast Combat Support Ship x3 2 West Coats and 1 East Coast
RTC: Recruiting and Training Command (2,000 Reg Force pers, 2,000 Res, 500 Civilian)
BGen, COL as XO (1 GOFO)
SPC: Support Command (6,000 Regular Force, 15,000 Reserve, 3,000 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
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Yes, but it can be painfully slow, and in some areas, you will just need to wave off and ether have your forces sweep the enemy UAS away first, or settle for your own UAS Recce in some places.
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Interesting. Heavy emphasis on ISTAR and SOF capabilities.Oh now I need to dig out my Napkin Army again...
50k Reg, 100k Res, 35 GOFO, and I didn't see a limit on Civilians
DEFCOM - Defence Command - Joint HQ Cell for all 7 Branches (1,000 Reg Force pers, 1,000 civilian)
Gen as CDC (Chairman of Defence Command), Lt Gen as VCDC, 7 BG (9 GOFO at DEFCOM)
5 BG slots as Exchange/Liason Officers (NATO/NOARD etc).
TSA - Tactical Support Aviation: Rotary Wing, Fixed Wing Ground Support, UAS, GeoSpacial (4,000 Regular Force, 10,000 Reserve, 1,000 Civilian) MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
MH-60 10 Sqn (18 / sqn 6/troop)
MH-47 3 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
AH-1 4 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
MQ-1D UAV 6 Sqn (18/sqn 6/troop)
CSOC: Canadian Special Operations Command: (2,000 Regular Force, 1,000 Reserve, 500 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
DATF (Direct Action Task Force)
3 Squadrons of Assaulters; each with 2 40 pers Troops - total 300 pers (inc Staff and LO)
1 Troop from each OP Sqn is on IRU with monthly rotations.
A Sqn - Training CFB Petawawa
B Sqn - Classified
C Sqn - Classified
AFO: Advance Force Operations
3 Squadrons of Operators; each with 2 40 pers Troops - total 300 pers (Inc staff and LO)
D Sqn - Counter Revolutionary Warfare
E Sqn - Russian Development Group - troops rotating on a NOC role through Russia etc.
Prep to sabotage, assassinate, and hamper Russian operations from inside their borders.
F Sqn - Training and Support.
HIG: Human Intelligence Group
4 Squadrons focus on Human Source Collection 80 pers / SQN 400 pers total (inc staff and LO)
G Sqn Eastern Canada Domestic
H Sqn Western Canada Domestic
I Sqn Vancouver - Overseas AOR
J Sqn Vancouver - Training, Support and Language School
SIG: Signals Intelligence Group
Ottawa - with deployable cells to support ops as needed (300 pers)
ISR: Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance
3 Deployable Groups and 1 Training Group - 200 pers
Some civilian fixed and rotary wing assets for low visibility observation, as well as radar, and UAV
JCG: Joint Communications Group
4 deployable groups and 1 training group - 200 personnel
MSG: Mobility Support Group
Overt and Covert Mobility Support - 100 personnel
4 Ground Support Teams
4 Marine Support Teams
EMG: Emergency Medical Group
4 Deployable Surgical Teams - and 1 Training Group - 100 personnel
ASP: Airborne Support Package
500 Pers under a COL -
18x MH-60G PaveHawk
18x MH-47F
18x A/MH-6 Little Bird
Nondescript Civilian AC as well.
CA: Canadian Army: Conventional Army Force: (15,000 Regular Force, 45,000 Reserve, 2,500 Civilian ) 1 Cdn Army Corps.
LtGen, 3MG , 6 BG (10 GOFO)
- work in progress
RCAF: Royal Canadian Air Force: Fixed Wing Transport, Support and Air Defence Fighters) (10,000 Regular Force, 15,000 Res, 2,500 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
C-17 x12: 9@ CFB Trenton, and 3 OPCOM to CSOC 1@ CFB Petawawa (new airfield required)
MRTT x12: @ CFB Trenton 1 on 5min NTM 1 on 30min NTM
E-8 x5: @ CFB Trenton 1 up 24/7
P-8 x 18: 5@ Vancouver 5@ Victoria 5@Summerside PEI, 3 for Training/Maintenance
MC-130H x30: 10 @ CFB Trenton (15 OPCOM to CSOC: 5 @ each of Calgary, Montreal, Petawawa) and 5 @ NorthBay (Training)
F-35 x 120 (Sqns at Victoria, Cold Lake, MooseJaw, NorthBay, Baggotville, Gander)
RCN: Royal Canadian Navy (10,000 Regular Force, 12,000 Reserve, 3,000 Civilian)
RAdm, Commodore as XO (2 GOFO)
VA Class SSN x 10 (3 West Coast, 3 East Coast, 3 Arctic, 1 training/spare)
AOPS x 10 (3 West Coast, 3 East Coast, 3 Arctic, 1 training/spare)
CSC x 15 (6 West Coast, 6 East Coast and 2 training/1 spare each w/ SH-60 MH Det's
Fast Combat Support Ship x3 2 West Coats and 1 East Coast
RTC: Recruiting and Training Command (2,000 Reg Force pers, 2,000 Res, 500 Civilian)
BGen, COL as XO (1 GOFO)
SPC: Support Command (6,000 Regular Force, 15,000 Reserve, 3,000 Civilian)
MGen, BG as XO (2 GOFO)
Would a Mountain Ops Cadre (like the Royal Marines have?) make sense for the CA? Like permanent dedicated, ready to go mountain troops
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For my train of thought, I would love to see a serious expansion of artillery. Especially HIMARS, Any sort of coastal anti-ship missile systems and lets get real about air defence, we have alot of air space. With modern stealth aircraft and drones that could probably sneak into the nation virtually undetected, its a concern.
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One point. No more LAV's. Get an IFV. Hopefully the XM30 will evolve to a first class IFV.
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Americans are business people, they’ll adapt for money.
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Include this in your plan please.
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Wait… I think I bought a book that you already wrote about this. “FJAG’s Heroes” or some such….Ditto - but I'll need a couple of days
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I think they offer some needed requirements.
I’m still rebuilding the Army.
Right now I’m using 3 full reg force Bde’s (1 Para, 1 Light and 1 Armored) a few 30-70 and a bunch of 10/90 formations, then some 100% PRes. With the goal of having a younger Reg Force - and a lot of post Reg Force Reservists.
1 Armor DIV and 1 Light DIV for a 1Cdn Corps (who is CCA during Peacetime) but setup to expand to a three Corps Army in Wartime.
I briefly toyed with an Amphibious Bde on both coasts, but couldn’t find the PY’s in the RCN to do what I wanted with it.
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Why are we doing NDHQ and the government's work?
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Say what now?
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I told my wife to get me that book, she is doing it! Looking forward to your insights.Yup - the second edition.
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Okay now for my Army
Canadian Army (15,000 Reg Force, 45,000 Res Force, and 2,500 Civilian pers)
1CDN Corps LtGen (700 personnel in HQ, 300 Reg and 400 Res) - Static HQ in Peacetime.
1 Canadian Armoured Division (HQ Winnipeg)
Div HQ (30/70)
1st Cdn Armoured Bde “Canadian Guards” (3,200 Reg pers) (Latvia)
1 RCHA, 1 RACADA, and a 1 Bde Spt BN attached and predeployed with 1st Armoured Bde
2st Cdn Armoured Bde , Suffield (10/90)
3rd Cdn Mechanized Bde Shilo (10/90)
1st Armoured Sustainment Bde (30/70)
1 Armoured Engineer Bde (30/70)
1 RCA Bde Suffield (15/85)
1 ADA Bde (15/85)
1 MP BN (10/90)
1 CRBN Defence BN (10/90)
*attached Combat Aviation Assets from TSA
Armour Bde’s consists of (M1A2 SepV4 Abrams & CV-90) Combined Arms Battalions
HQ
2 BN Armour Heavy CAB 1BN Inf Heavy CAB
1 Armored Engineer Reg’t
1 Armoured Calvary Troop (Scout PLx2, Tank Troop, RCV Platoon, CBRN Recce Platoon, Mortar Section, UAS Troop, and attached Forward Spt Section)
1 Brigade Signals BN
*1 Brigade Support BN attached from Armour Sustainment Bde
Mechanized Bde’s consists of (M1A2 SepV4 Abrams & CV-90) Combined Arms Battalions
1 BN Armour Heavy CAB 2 BN Inf Heavy CAB
1 Armored Engineer Reg’t
1 Armoured Calvary Troop (Scout PLx2, Tank Troop, RCV Platoon, CBRN Recce Platoon, Mortar Section, UAS Troop, and attached Forward Spt Section)
1 Brigade Signals BN
*1 Brigade Support BN attached from Armour Sustainment Bde
1 RCA Bde
1-3 RCHA (3x8 gun M109A7 Bty’s, 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
4 RCHA (3x8 HIMARS Bty’s1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
1 RC ADA Bde
(Bty’s consist of 8 Vehicle/Launchers each)
1-3 RCADA (Armored M-SHORAD CV90) 4 Bty of 12 vehicles each, 3 ADAM Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
4 RCADA (2 bty of TTHAD, 3 Bty of MEADS)
2 Cdn Light Div HQ Edmonton
Div HQ (40/60)
1 CDN Para Bde (Edmonton) 3,720 Reg Force (inc attached Light Spt BN from the Sustainment Bde)
2 CDN Para Bde (Valcartier) 30/70 (1,116 Reg Force, and 2,604 PRes)
1 CDN Arctic Bde BvS-10 (Victoria) 30/70
2 CDN Arctic Bde BvS-10 (Gagetown) 30/70
1 Light Force Sustainment Bde (30/70)
2 RCA Bde (15/85)
2 Combat Engineer Bde (30/70)
2 ADA Bde (15/85)
2 MP BN (10/90)
Para Bde’s consist of:
HQ Coy
3 Airborne Infantry Bn's @ 800 each
1 Light Recce Coy
1 Abn Engineer Reg’t
Bde Sigs Coy
MI Coy
Light Support BN
Arctic Bde’s consist of:
HQ Coy
3 BvS-10 Infantry Bn's @ 800 each
1 Light Recce Coy
Bde Sigs Coy
MI Coy
Arctic Support BN
2 RCA Bde:
5 RALC M777 Airborne 3x8 gun Bty, 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
6 RCHA M777 Airborne 3x8 gun Bty, , 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
7 RCHA M777 3x8 gun Bty, , 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
8 RCHA M777 3x8 gun Bty, , 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
9 RCHA HIMARS 3x8 Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
2 RC ADA Bde
5-6 RCADA (Avenger) 4 Bty of 12 vehicles each, 3 ADAM Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
7-8 RCADA (BvS10 MSHORAD) 4 Bty of 12 vehicles each, 3 ADAM Bty, 1xHQ Bty
9 RCADA (2 bty of TTHAD, 3 Bty of MEADS)7-8 RCADA BvS-10 MSHORAD
Training; 96 Reg Force (I ran out of bodies for more) 7,542 PRes.
Canadian Army (15,000 Reg Force, 45,000 Res Force, and 2,500 Civilian pers)
1CDN Corps LtGen (700 personnel in HQ, 300 Reg and 400 Res) - Static HQ in Peacetime.
1 Canadian Armoured Division (HQ Winnipeg)
Div HQ (30/70)
1st Cdn Armoured Bde “Canadian Guards” (3,200 Reg pers) (Latvia)
1 RCHA, 1 RACADA, and a 1 Bde Spt BN attached and predeployed with 1st Armoured Bde
2st Cdn Armoured Bde , Suffield (10/90)
3rd Cdn Mechanized Bde Shilo (10/90)
1st Armoured Sustainment Bde (30/70)
1 Armoured Engineer Bde (30/70)
1 RCA Bde Suffield (15/85)
1 ADA Bde (15/85)
1 MP BN (10/90)
1 CRBN Defence BN (10/90)
*attached Combat Aviation Assets from TSA
Armour Bde’s consists of (M1A2 SepV4 Abrams & CV-90) Combined Arms Battalions
HQ
2 BN Armour Heavy CAB 1BN Inf Heavy CAB
1 Armored Engineer Reg’t
1 Armoured Calvary Troop (Scout PLx2, Tank Troop, RCV Platoon, CBRN Recce Platoon, Mortar Section, UAS Troop, and attached Forward Spt Section)
1 Brigade Signals BN
*1 Brigade Support BN attached from Armour Sustainment Bde
Mechanized Bde’s consists of (M1A2 SepV4 Abrams & CV-90) Combined Arms Battalions
1 BN Armour Heavy CAB 2 BN Inf Heavy CAB
1 Armored Engineer Reg’t
1 Armoured Calvary Troop (Scout PLx2, Tank Troop, RCV Platoon, CBRN Recce Platoon, Mortar Section, UAS Troop, and attached Forward Spt Section)
1 Brigade Signals BN
*1 Brigade Support BN attached from Armour Sustainment Bde
1 RCA Bde
1-3 RCHA (3x8 gun M109A7 Bty’s, 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
4 RCHA (3x8 HIMARS Bty’s1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
1 RC ADA Bde
(Bty’s consist of 8 Vehicle/Launchers each)
1-3 RCADA (Armored M-SHORAD CV90) 4 Bty of 12 vehicles each, 3 ADAM Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
4 RCADA (2 bty of TTHAD, 3 Bty of MEADS)
2 Cdn Light Div HQ Edmonton
Div HQ (40/60)
1 CDN Para Bde (Edmonton) 3,720 Reg Force (inc attached Light Spt BN from the Sustainment Bde)
2 CDN Para Bde (Valcartier) 30/70 (1,116 Reg Force, and 2,604 PRes)
1 CDN Arctic Bde BvS-10 (Victoria) 30/70
2 CDN Arctic Bde BvS-10 (Gagetown) 30/70
1 Light Force Sustainment Bde (30/70)
2 RCA Bde (15/85)
2 Combat Engineer Bde (30/70)
2 ADA Bde (15/85)
2 MP BN (10/90)
Para Bde’s consist of:
HQ Coy
3 Airborne Infantry Bn's @ 800 each
1 Light Recce Coy
1 Abn Engineer Reg’t
Bde Sigs Coy
MI Coy
Light Support BN
Arctic Bde’s consist of:
HQ Coy
3 BvS-10 Infantry Bn's @ 800 each
1 Light Recce Coy
Bde Sigs Coy
MI Coy
Arctic Support BN
2 RCA Bde:
5 RALC M777 Airborne 3x8 gun Bty, 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
6 RCHA M777 Airborne 3x8 gun Bty, , 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
7 RCHA M777 3x8 gun Bty, , 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
8 RCHA M777 3x8 gun Bty, , 1x FOO/JTAC Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
9 RCHA HIMARS 3x8 Bty, 1x STA Bty, 1xSupport Bty, 1xHQ Bty
2 RC ADA Bde
5-6 RCADA (Avenger) 4 Bty of 12 vehicles each, 3 ADAM Bty, 1xHQ Bty)
7-8 RCADA (BvS10 MSHORAD) 4 Bty of 12 vehicles each, 3 ADAM Bty, 1xHQ Bty
9 RCADA (2 bty of TTHAD, 3 Bty of MEADS)7-8 RCADA BvS-10 MSHORAD
Training; 96 Reg Force (I ran out of bodies for more) 7,542 PRes.
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Gonna dive more into this. I gotta get night chores done first.
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Here's my two div napkin model I'm presently playing with from the Artillery thread.
CA Two Div model
As stated at the link - it's based on current authorized RegF and ResF numbers and only partially equipped based on current equipment holdings.
In an expanded funding world, 1 Div would be equipped with new tanks, IFVs and SPs. I tend to stay equipment agnostic for these things but believe in common fleets with a secure Factory base - that tends to get me looking US. For tanks I'm thinking Abrams-X, For artillery M109-52, for IFV Bradleys until something better comes along - something better could be CV-90 or K21 Redback if manufacturing could come onshore.
As that equipment comes on line, all LAV series equipment from 1 Div (roughly 4 bns worth) gets transferred to 2 Div to fill out it's mech battalions. 2 Div artillery is an issue. Currently they get all the army's M777s which is not enough for three regiments. C3s and LG1s fill out the bulk. If more M777s become available I'd round them up to 54 guns but if not I'd consider going to three regiments with two gun batteries (one LG1, one M777) of three 3-gun troops each. (27 x LG1 and 27 x M777 total) The third battery would be equipped with OWUAV launchers and STA.
CA Two Div model
As stated at the link - it's based on current authorized RegF and ResF numbers and only partially equipped based on current equipment holdings.
In an expanded funding world, 1 Div would be equipped with new tanks, IFVs and SPs. I tend to stay equipment agnostic for these things but believe in common fleets with a secure Factory base - that tends to get me looking US. For tanks I'm thinking Abrams-X, For artillery M109-52, for IFV Bradleys until something better comes along - something better could be CV-90 or K21 Redback if manufacturing could come onshore.
As that equipment comes on line, all LAV series equipment from 1 Div (roughly 4 bns worth) gets transferred to 2 Div to fill out it's mech battalions. 2 Div artillery is an issue. Currently they get all the army's M777s which is not enough for three regiments. C3s and LG1s fill out the bulk. If more M777s become available I'd round them up to 54 guns but if not I'd consider going to three regiments with two gun batteries (one LG1, one M777) of three 3-gun troops each. (27 x LG1 and 27 x M777 total) The third battery would be equipped with OWUAV launchers and STA.
