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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending
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And if you don't start you won't get where you need to go.
They may still have thousands of employees. How many do they need if they hadn't started using robots? More robots, less labour, higher productivity, higher income, more wealth generated.
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Meanwhile - the cost of money.
www.telegraph.co.uk
The Federal Budget Shrinking.
Fault lines are fast re-emerging in Europe’s fragile monetary union
Already fiscally challenged, high interest rates risk pushing the eurozone to the brink
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The Federal Budget Shrinking.
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Shrinking less is relative growth.
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The title from this National Post article is self-explanatory.
When politicians get in a room together, are they overwhelmed by the wafting scent of bulls–t, or do they simply become immune to it after awhile?
In July, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz met with their NATO allies in Vilnius, Lithuania, where they pledged their “enduring commitment to invest at least two per cent of our gross domestic product (GDP) annually on defence,” noting that, “in many cases, expenditure beyond two per cent of GDP will be needed in order to remedy existing shortfalls and meet the requirements across all domains arising from a more contested security order.”
This came a year and a half after Scholz, realizing the increased security threat from Russia following its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, set up a 100-billion euro defence fund and promised to beat the two per cent target “year after year.”
Yet less than a month after the July NATO summit in Lithuania, Scholz’s government quietly dropped a legal requirement for it to meet the two per cent target on an annual basis from its budget financing law. The government would only commit to spending two per cent on average over a five-year period. And even that might not last: according to an August 2022 report from the German Economic Institute, once Berlin’s defence fund dries up in 2027, spending will once again fall to 1.2 per cent of GDP.
Trudeau also appears to have had no intention of meeting the target — which, to be fair, has been ignored by every Canadian government since it was agreed to in 2006 — despite reaffirming his commitment to it at the summit. On Friday, the CBC reported that his Liberal government is looking to cut $1 billion from the annual defence budget, which would further reduce the measly 1.3 per cent of GDP this country spent on defence last year.
I should note that I think the two per cent target itself is kind of BS. At the very least, it should be seen as more of a yardstick (metrestick?) than a hard-and-fast rule. We could, after all, reach our spending commitment by purchasing truckloads of $435 hammers and $600 toilet seats, but that would be of little benefit. Far more important is whether we’re spending enough to protect our borders and meet our international obligations. Yet by this measure, as well, we are falling well short.
Speaking in front of a parliamentary committee on Thursday, Defence Minister Bill Blair said that, “The fiscal environment in Canada right now requires that when we are spending Canadian taxpayers dollars … we do it carefully and thoughtfully.”
And he’s absolutely right. But it seems a little rich from a government that can’t seem to go a week without announcing millions in funding for high-speed internet in some remote part of the country or to virtue-signal for the woke cause du jour, and wastes tens of billions on its fruitless quest to forcibly decarbonize the economy.
China and Russia, in particular, are investing heavily in militarizing the Arctic, knowing that the region is not only strategically important, but is home to vast riches that will become more accessible as sea ice continues to melt due to climate change.
Meanwhile, Trudeau’s strategy seems to be to prevent the ice from melting in the first place — a futile endeavour in the face of all the new coal generators being built in China, and of little use if Russia ever sends its fleet of nuclear icebreakers and ice-capable frigates to back up its territorial claims in the North.
Blair said that finding $1 billion in savings “may actually require some of the investments that we know we have to make, (that) we may have to make over a longer period of time.” Which is precisely why it wasn’t until last spring that the government started replacing the pistols that our servicemen were using back when the veteran who recently received a standing ovation in Parliament still had a swastika on his arm.
Having a military that’s capable of defending your country’s sovereignty may not seem to be “creating public value for Canadians,” as Blair suggested government expenditures should be, and may not be a vote-getter like dental or child care, two areas Treasury Board President Anita Anand insinuated the government needs to find savings in order to fund.
But like having adequate stockpiles of unexpired N95 masks at the start of a pandemic, having a military that’s capable of defending your borders is not something you want to be caught without at a time when you need it most.
This should not have come as a surprise to anyone who is concerned about National Security issues. Having a strong and credible whole of government deterrence against foreign and domestic enemies, building a viable nation of of entrepreneurs, and having a grounded and sustainable social network are not legacies that PM Trudeau (or Mr. Singh) wants to remembered for.
Trudeau cuts defence spending to fund socialist pet projects
When politicians get in a room together, are they overwhelmed by the wafting scent of bulls–t, or do they simply become immune to it after awhile?
In July, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz met with their NATO allies in Vilnius, Lithuania, where they pledged their “enduring commitment to invest at least two per cent of our gross domestic product (GDP) annually on defence,” noting that, “in many cases, expenditure beyond two per cent of GDP will be needed in order to remedy existing shortfalls and meet the requirements across all domains arising from a more contested security order.”
This came a year and a half after Scholz, realizing the increased security threat from Russia following its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, set up a 100-billion euro defence fund and promised to beat the two per cent target “year after year.”
Yet less than a month after the July NATO summit in Lithuania, Scholz’s government quietly dropped a legal requirement for it to meet the two per cent target on an annual basis from its budget financing law. The government would only commit to spending two per cent on average over a five-year period. And even that might not last: according to an August 2022 report from the German Economic Institute, once Berlin’s defence fund dries up in 2027, spending will once again fall to 1.2 per cent of GDP.
Trudeau also appears to have had no intention of meeting the target — which, to be fair, has been ignored by every Canadian government since it was agreed to in 2006 — despite reaffirming his commitment to it at the summit. On Friday, the CBC reported that his Liberal government is looking to cut $1 billion from the annual defence budget, which would further reduce the measly 1.3 per cent of GDP this country spent on defence last year.
I should note that I think the two per cent target itself is kind of BS. At the very least, it should be seen as more of a yardstick (metrestick?) than a hard-and-fast rule. We could, after all, reach our spending commitment by purchasing truckloads of $435 hammers and $600 toilet seats, but that would be of little benefit. Far more important is whether we’re spending enough to protect our borders and meet our international obligations. Yet by this measure, as well, we are falling well short.
Speaking in front of a parliamentary committee on Thursday, Defence Minister Bill Blair said that, “The fiscal environment in Canada right now requires that when we are spending Canadian taxpayers dollars … we do it carefully and thoughtfully.”
And he’s absolutely right. But it seems a little rich from a government that can’t seem to go a week without announcing millions in funding for high-speed internet in some remote part of the country or to virtue-signal for the woke cause du jour, and wastes tens of billions on its fruitless quest to forcibly decarbonize the economy.
China and Russia, in particular, are investing heavily in militarizing the Arctic, knowing that the region is not only strategically important, but is home to vast riches that will become more accessible as sea ice continues to melt due to climate change.
Meanwhile, Trudeau’s strategy seems to be to prevent the ice from melting in the first place — a futile endeavour in the face of all the new coal generators being built in China, and of little use if Russia ever sends its fleet of nuclear icebreakers and ice-capable frigates to back up its territorial claims in the North.
Blair said that finding $1 billion in savings “may actually require some of the investments that we know we have to make, (that) we may have to make over a longer period of time.” Which is precisely why it wasn’t until last spring that the government started replacing the pistols that our servicemen were using back when the veteran who recently received a standing ovation in Parliament still had a swastika on his arm.
Having a military that’s capable of defending your country’s sovereignty may not seem to be “creating public value for Canadians,” as Blair suggested government expenditures should be, and may not be a vote-getter like dental or child care, two areas Treasury Board President Anita Anand insinuated the government needs to find savings in order to fund.
But like having adequate stockpiles of unexpired N95 masks at the start of a pandemic, having a military that’s capable of defending your borders is not something you want to be caught without at a time when you need it most.
This should not have come as a surprise to anyone who is concerned about National Security issues. Having a strong and credible whole of government deterrence against foreign and domestic enemies, building a viable nation of of entrepreneurs, and having a grounded and sustainable social network are not legacies that PM Trudeau (or Mr. Singh) wants to remembered for.
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I was hoping that MND Blair would be different and stand up for DND/CAF, but after reading this article I was wrong. It appears that Mr. Blair lacks the intestinal fortitude, or balls, to defend this department against cuts because these uncertain times. The Government is not getting value for spending on DND/CAF.
I am disappointed in Mr. Blair. I hope that Gen Eyre does not resign and continue to fight for the CAF.
For more than a decade while it was in power, the former Conservative government railed against a great, faceless bureaucracy it blamed for undermining its ambitions for the Department of National Defence (DND).
That tactic appears to have been adopted by the current Liberal defence minister as he explains the government's intention to cut $1 billion from the defence appropriation.
Appearing earlier this week on CBC Radio's The Current, Defence Minister Bill Blair presented the proposed cut as good fiscal stewardship at a time when ordinary Canadians are feeling the bite of rising inflation and a shortage of affordable housing — political factors the Liberals see as obstacles to re-election.
When they were in power and frustrated by their inability to pursue their defence agenda, the federal Conservatives under Stephen Harper made giving the Canadian Armed Forces "more teeth and less tail" their mantra. Essentially, they argued that DND was afflicted by a bloated bureaucracy that needed deflating.
Blair borrowed a few pages from that argument this week.
"Canadians are being faced with tough choices and we've got to make tough choices too," Blair said during the interview, which aired Monday. He said he believes DND has a responsibility to contribute to the planned overall government spending reduction of $15 billion mandated by the federal Treasury Board.
"Our goal is to increase the military capability in our contribution at home and abroad," he added. "It's also to support the men and women who do that important job for us, but that does not mean that the bureaucracy that administers that important work is immune from the scrutiny that we're being asked to apply."
Blair also claimed that under the current government, defence spending is in the process of doubling to $40 billion annually. He also suggested the government has seen little return for its investment thus far — dusting off another old argument advanced by the Conservatives during the last round of belt-tightening at DND, when Harper's government was trying to balance the budget.
"Over time, we've already made very, very significant increases in the defence budget, and what we have not seen is an increase in military capacity commensurate with those budget increases," Blair said.
The minister, who was appointed in last summer's cabinet shuffle, said that even in his short time in the ministry, he's "seen significant expenditures … that are not making a direct contribution to increasing military capacity or support to military families."
He offered no examples in the interview beyond executive travel. In a statement issued last week that was meant to recast the cuts as savings, Blair also spoke about consulting as a budget area worthy of the axe.
But there are several oversimplifications in Blair's budget statements to date that trouble the experts who know DND's budget inside and out — including one former vice chief of the defence staff. One of them is the assertion that the budget has doubled.
Military procurement expert Dave Perry, vice president of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, said DND hasn't been able to spend significant portions of the extra cash it has been given already.
"The Department of National Defence has been saving the finance department over a billion dollars every single year by underspending its capital account," said Perry, whose organization has occasionally hosted conferences partly sponsored by defence manufacturers.
The capital account is intended to buy new equipment. In 2023, it accounted for about $6.1 billion in planned spending.
Many projects that are meant to produce the military capabilities Blair claims have not been delivered — including the recent decision to buy F-35 fighter jets — have themselves been postponed or stuck in a sclerotic procurement process.
Retired vice-admiral Mark Norman, the former vice chief of the defence staff and former commander of the navy, took issue with the notion that DND isn't providing value for money. He pointed out that the military is being used more and more as the force of first resort to respond to catastrophes — the pandemic's effects in long-term care homes, forest fires and other natural disasters — while it maintains overseas deployments like NATO's Latvia battlegroup and training Ukrainian troops.
"They need to look in the mirror," said Norman, who earned the wrath of the Liberal government in 2017 when he was accused of leaking cabinet secrets related to a long-delayed shipbuilding program. The case against him was dropped.
"Notwithstanding the fact that they are no different than the previous government — they like to celebrate every time they buy big, shiny objects — their procurement record is abysmal. It's getting worse, it's taking longer. Even relatively simple projects, which arguably are military off-the-shelf, are still taking years longer than they should."
Both Norman and Perry are skeptical of the notion that the cuts can be realized through consulting and service contracts without touching military capability.
The budget for those services at DND was $6.5 billion in 2022, according to federal public accounts records. That covered thousands of contracts for everything from security guards at DND properties to contracted training and education services (both uniform and non-uniform) to engineering and architectural services.
Perry described it as "essential funding" propping up operations in a military short of up to 16,000 personnel — a figure reported to the House of Commons defence committee last week.
DND basically has three big buckets of spending. The first part compensates civilian and military personnel, while the second part funds acquisition of new equipment and builds infrastructure. The third component of DND spending is the one that Perry describes as "a catch-all category, operations and maintenance." There, several billion dollars is set aside for the maintenance of existing fleets of aircraft, ships and vehicles, and to provide training.
When the Conservatives cut the defence budget, that third category was the one that took a major hit. It could be the primary target this time as well.
Throughout the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, Canada increased funding to the military at times of heightened geopolitical tensions. Just weeks ago, Canada signed on to a NATO commitment to make spending two per cent of the country's gross domestic product on defence an "enduring commitment" or goal.
Norman said that even though it may be bucking both its allies and history, he doesn't see the federal government changing course.
"It doesn't surprise me at all that they're going to want to implement cuts," he said.
"I think that if anybody still had doubts as to whether we were or were not a serious nation, the fact that we would cut the defence budget at this moment in time is going to confirm that we do not take these international obligations seriously.
"And I have difficulty understanding the logic, notwithstanding the fact that they need to share the pain across all of the government. But we're supporting a war in Ukraine. Perhaps that's a pause, a moment to pause for reflection and ask ourselves, is this really the time to cut the defence budget?"
In his interview with CBC's The Current, Blair disputed the description of the budget exercise as a cut. He said it was rather "a reduction in the pace at which we have been increasing the defence budget."
That's likely not how the department itself will see it, said Perry.
"Any reasonable person that had anticipated having $900 million more — three, four or five years from now — [and] is told that they will not have that $900 million would consider that to be a cut to their budget," Perry said.
I am disappointed in Mr. Blair. I hope that Gen Eyre does not resign and continue to fight for the CAF.
Blair steals a page from the Harper playbook to justify cuts to National Defence
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The new defence minister is blaming the bureaucrats — his critics say the argument makes no sense
For more than a decade while it was in power, the former Conservative government railed against a great, faceless bureaucracy it blamed for undermining its ambitions for the Department of National Defence (DND).
That tactic appears to have been adopted by the current Liberal defence minister as he explains the government's intention to cut $1 billion from the defence appropriation.
Appearing earlier this week on CBC Radio's The Current, Defence Minister Bill Blair presented the proposed cut as good fiscal stewardship at a time when ordinary Canadians are feeling the bite of rising inflation and a shortage of affordable housing — political factors the Liberals see as obstacles to re-election.
When they were in power and frustrated by their inability to pursue their defence agenda, the federal Conservatives under Stephen Harper made giving the Canadian Armed Forces "more teeth and less tail" their mantra. Essentially, they argued that DND was afflicted by a bloated bureaucracy that needed deflating.
Blair borrowed a few pages from that argument this week.
"Canadians are being faced with tough choices and we've got to make tough choices too," Blair said during the interview, which aired Monday. He said he believes DND has a responsibility to contribute to the planned overall government spending reduction of $15 billion mandated by the federal Treasury Board.
"Our goal is to increase the military capability in our contribution at home and abroad," he added. "It's also to support the men and women who do that important job for us, but that does not mean that the bureaucracy that administers that important work is immune from the scrutiny that we're being asked to apply."
Blair also claimed that under the current government, defence spending is in the process of doubling to $40 billion annually. He also suggested the government has seen little return for its investment thus far — dusting off another old argument advanced by the Conservatives during the last round of belt-tightening at DND, when Harper's government was trying to balance the budget.
"Over time, we've already made very, very significant increases in the defence budget, and what we have not seen is an increase in military capacity commensurate with those budget increases," Blair said.
The minister, who was appointed in last summer's cabinet shuffle, said that even in his short time in the ministry, he's "seen significant expenditures … that are not making a direct contribution to increasing military capacity or support to military families."
He offered no examples in the interview beyond executive travel. In a statement issued last week that was meant to recast the cuts as savings, Blair also spoke about consulting as a budget area worthy of the axe.
But there are several oversimplifications in Blair's budget statements to date that trouble the experts who know DND's budget inside and out — including one former vice chief of the defence staff. One of them is the assertion that the budget has doubled.
DND has been underspending its capital budget
According to the federal main estimates, the current defence budget sits at $26.5 billion and won't reach the $40 billion mark for several years. The goal of doubling expenditures is still an aspirational one.Military procurement expert Dave Perry, vice president of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, said DND hasn't been able to spend significant portions of the extra cash it has been given already.
"The Department of National Defence has been saving the finance department over a billion dollars every single year by underspending its capital account," said Perry, whose organization has occasionally hosted conferences partly sponsored by defence manufacturers.
The capital account is intended to buy new equipment. In 2023, it accounted for about $6.1 billion in planned spending.
Many projects that are meant to produce the military capabilities Blair claims have not been delivered — including the recent decision to buy F-35 fighter jets — have themselves been postponed or stuck in a sclerotic procurement process.
Retired vice-admiral Mark Norman, the former vice chief of the defence staff and former commander of the navy, took issue with the notion that DND isn't providing value for money. He pointed out that the military is being used more and more as the force of first resort to respond to catastrophes — the pandemic's effects in long-term care homes, forest fires and other natural disasters — while it maintains overseas deployments like NATO's Latvia battlegroup and training Ukrainian troops.
'They need to look in the mirror'
The failure to produce results, said Norman, happened under the Liberals' watch."They need to look in the mirror," said Norman, who earned the wrath of the Liberal government in 2017 when he was accused of leaking cabinet secrets related to a long-delayed shipbuilding program. The case against him was dropped.
"Notwithstanding the fact that they are no different than the previous government — they like to celebrate every time they buy big, shiny objects — their procurement record is abysmal. It's getting worse, it's taking longer. Even relatively simple projects, which arguably are military off-the-shelf, are still taking years longer than they should."
Both Norman and Perry are skeptical of the notion that the cuts can be realized through consulting and service contracts without touching military capability.
The budget for those services at DND was $6.5 billion in 2022, according to federal public accounts records. That covered thousands of contracts for everything from security guards at DND properties to contracted training and education services (both uniform and non-uniform) to engineering and architectural services.
Perry described it as "essential funding" propping up operations in a military short of up to 16,000 personnel — a figure reported to the House of Commons defence committee last week.
DND basically has three big buckets of spending. The first part compensates civilian and military personnel, while the second part funds acquisition of new equipment and builds infrastructure. The third component of DND spending is the one that Perry describes as "a catch-all category, operations and maintenance." There, several billion dollars is set aside for the maintenance of existing fleets of aircraft, ships and vehicles, and to provide training.
When the Conservatives cut the defence budget, that third category was the one that took a major hit. It could be the primary target this time as well.
It's not the 1990s anymore
Both Perry and Norman say the geopolitical climate has changed radically since the cuts of the 1990s. The world is now facing an active war in Ukraine involving a major power and an increasingly assertive China.Throughout the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, Canada increased funding to the military at times of heightened geopolitical tensions. Just weeks ago, Canada signed on to a NATO commitment to make spending two per cent of the country's gross domestic product on defence an "enduring commitment" or goal.
Norman said that even though it may be bucking both its allies and history, he doesn't see the federal government changing course.
"It doesn't surprise me at all that they're going to want to implement cuts," he said.
"I think that if anybody still had doubts as to whether we were or were not a serious nation, the fact that we would cut the defence budget at this moment in time is going to confirm that we do not take these international obligations seriously.
"And I have difficulty understanding the logic, notwithstanding the fact that they need to share the pain across all of the government. But we're supporting a war in Ukraine. Perhaps that's a pause, a moment to pause for reflection and ask ourselves, is this really the time to cut the defence budget?"
In his interview with CBC's The Current, Blair disputed the description of the budget exercise as a cut. He said it was rather "a reduction in the pace at which we have been increasing the defence budget."
That's likely not how the department itself will see it, said Perry.
"Any reasonable person that had anticipated having $900 million more — three, four or five years from now — [and] is told that they will not have that $900 million would consider that to be a cut to their budget," Perry said.
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Well, one might suppose that if you increase the size of the federal bureaucracy (40+%) things will get more….bureaucratic.
For reference:
nationalpost.com
For reference:
Trudeau government increased federal employees 40% since election in 2015
The federal government's ranks swelled by over 21,000 workers since 2022, government data shows.
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How dare you assume the MND is supposed to 'protect' DND/CAF?
I think that Trudeau put him there to lead the cutting process so, in fact, he's doing exactly what his boss wants him to
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Blair rarely, if ever, stands up for anything but Blair. as soon as I sawhis appt as MND the thought was Were truely F####d!
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That graph spans the tenure of two PMs. Both big parties hold part of the bag for our performance.Meanwhile, Trudeau cabinet be like....
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