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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
I've been trying to convince my sister to join her local reserve unit as a finance officer. She's an accountant, with a four year BBA in finance, and in the past worked for a procurement firm. Sounds like she might be overqualified.
I think we need that right now
 

Facts about the Danish Canadian Home Guard​

  • The Home Guard is a volunteer military organisation.
  • The Home Guard had 46,651 326,557 members as of October 2014 .
  • The active force had 15,808 110,656 volunteer soldiers as of October, 2014. The remaining volunteers belong to the Home Guard Reserve
  • (an armed active force of 4,300 30,100 volunteer soldiers keep their rifles at home)
  • (a Special Support and Reconnaissance Company Battalion is sustained)
  • Approximately 15 percent of all volunteer soldiers are wome
  • The task of the Home Guard is to support the Armed Forces – nationally as well as internationally. In addition, the Home Guard supports the police, the emergency services and other authorities in carrying out their duties.
  • 1,845 12,915 people applied for enrollment in the Home Guard, and 1,301 9,107 volunteers signed a contract in 2014 (as of November 2014).
  • 868 6,076 of the new volunteers (68 percent) were aged 18-32.
  • The appropriation allocated to the Home Guard in the Finance Bill amounted to 498,4 m. DKK 655 MCAD in 2014.
You had my curiosity, and this part got my attention. DOMOPS might be where we find the most use out of these guys so that the Army can actually focus on warfighting?

Plus, it'd be a splendid recruiting tool; join to fight wildfires, floods, epidemics and serve your community. Boy scouts for adults.

Might make them more easily employable too, since - under the right legal construct - there wouldn't be a dodgy question of force employment on Canadian soil. Conceivably, the Home Guard could legally fall under military command only in times of armed conflict, just like the USCG.
 
You had my curiosity, and this part got my attention. DOMOPS might be where we find the most use out of these guys so that the Army can actually focus on warfighting?

Plus, it'd be a splendid recruiting tool; join to fight wildfires, floods, epidemics and serve your community. Boy scouts for adults.

Might make them more easily employable too, since - under the right legal construct - there wouldn't be a dodgy question of force employment on Canadian soil. Conceivably, the Home Guard could legally fall under military command only in times of armed conflict, just like the USCG.


Eggzacky!!!

And, as you say, leave the warfighting for the Professionals.

And if they need additional help they have a pool of volunteers from which to draw, if they ask politely.
 
I don’t know about expecting more from volunteers. I was part of a fully funded ground SAR unit (i.e. we didn’t do bake sales) with all the gear and equipment we needed, but we faced the same attendance problems as my former PRes unit; 30-50 people on paper but less than a dozen who showed up regularly for practice, training and taskings, and even fewer who filled “management” roles. As such, those dedicated few who showed up got burnt out quickly, especially management, so we had high turnover. Like the PRes, advanced training took place out of town, on our own time, sometimes 7 hours away in the Big Smoke. We were paid only expenses for training and taskings.

I think it’s wishful thinking that motivated volunteers are going to save our bacon. A lot of volunteers put in exactly as much effort as they’re paid, especially when life gets in the way. At least in the PRes, they paid us beer money!
 
Plus, it'd be a splendid recruiting tool; join to fight wildfires, floods, epidemics and serve your community. Boy scouts for adults.

The people who occasionally boost their income by working extra hours when called upon to help in other parts of the country probably don't want underpaid competition.

Sure is easy to propose things that result in someone else's time or income being imposed upon.
 
The people who occasionally boost their income by working extra hours when called upon to help in other parts of the country probably don't want underpaid competition.

Sure is easy to propose things that result in someone else's time or income being imposed upon.
A long time ago reserve CSS was part of the national recovery plan, we actually had class A members on call. Now it's all contracted out
 
Here lies our current problem with the PRes: Gotta pay the bills somehow.

We offer very little in the way of protection or cushion for folks when we ask them to serve their country on a part time basis. A lot of the people we recruit as reservists are working full time or are students pursuing a degree so they can be employed full time.

I look at the Ontario Government's recent changes to support Reservists and can already see HR departments trying to find loopholes. If we are going to have a Nordic socialist ideal of a "Home Guard" we need to ensure we provide the same sort of safe guards.
 
Continuing with my fascination on the subject of Denmark

We have 7x the population but only 5x the wealth. Rich Danish buggers.

With that I took a look at the kit the Danes have and multiplied it by 5.

We would end up with

95x Cesar 155mm SPH (Wheeled)
105x LAV mounted 120mm mortars
220x Leo2A7
220x CV9035
2200x LAVs
890x Armoured HMMWV
75x Jackal

The Navy would end up with

15x Iver Huitfeldt Air Defence Frigates (ABM/Tomahawk Capable)
10x Absalon ASW/Support Frigates (Tank Transport Capable)
20x Thetis Class Frigates
15x Knud Rasmussen Patrol Vessels

The Air Force would end up with

163x F16 (being phased out)
135x F35 (being phased in)
20x Challenger MPA
20x C130J
55x Fennec Helicopters
45x SH-60
70x Merlin/Cormorant

40x NASAMS AD Batteries with 240x launchers
30x Radar Stations

All with a budget of less than 2% of GDP. (1.6 to be precise)
 
I don’t know about expecting more from volunteers. I was part of a fully funded ground SAR unit (i.e. we didn’t do bake sales) with all the gear and equipment we needed, but we faced the same attendance problems as my former PRes unit; 30-50 people on paper but less than a dozen who showed up regularly for practice, training and taskings, and even fewer who filled “management” roles. As such, those dedicated few who showed up got burnt out quickly, especially management, so we had high turnover. Like the PRes, advanced training took place out of town, on our own time, sometimes 7 hours away in the Big Smoke. We were paid only expenses for training and taskings.

I think it’s wishful thinking that motivated volunteers are going to save our bacon. A lot of volunteers put in exactly as much effort as they’re paid, especially when life gets in the way. At least in the PRes, they paid us beer money!

I don't care if they regularly show up. Or if they get all the training.

I care about getting that regular dozen for free.
And, in the event of an emergency, as many of the rest as are willing to show up.
It all helps.
 
The people who occasionally boost their income by working extra hours when called upon to help in other parts of the country probably don't want underpaid competition.

Sure is easy to propose things that result in someone else's time or income being imposed upon.

I keep forgetting.
Public Service is a union shop in Canada.

The Danes have stronger unions than we have over here and yet they still manage to support an unpaid Homeguard.
 
Plus, it'd be a splendid recruiting tool; join to fight wildfires, floods, epidemics and serve your community.

"Serve your community."

How many employers grant Military Leave for anything short of "war as declared by the Government of Canada." ?

Especially when serving their community is their profession.

Saw this upthread,

>Volunteer firefighters freely volunteer their efforts as a way of serving and giving back to their community. They often do not receive >monetary compensation from the fire department. If they are paid, it is typically in the form of small stipends or annual bonuses.

We didn't have vollies or part-timers in our town. "It's a career, not a hobby".

But, I did look online at the collective agreements of some volunteer firefighter unions in Ontario. Take a look at the "small stipends".













 
Here lies our current problem with the PRes: Gotta pay the bills somehow.

We offer very little in the way of protection or cushion for folks when we ask them to serve their country on a part time basis. A lot of the people we recruit as reservists are working full time or are students pursuing a degree so they can be employed full time.

I look at the Ontario Government's recent changes to support Reservists and can already see HR departments trying to find loopholes. If we are going to have a Nordic socialist ideal of a "Home Guard" we need to ensure we provide the same sort of safe guards.


This mob is not asked to serve their country. If they go overseas they have to volunteer and sign a regular short term enlistment contract (typically 6 months) and get covered under that.

These are people voluntarily, freely, at no charge, making themselves available to serve their local community. If they are injured then the local, government funded health care system looks after them. The same way it would if they injured themselves down at the local Sporthalle playing handball.

This is not about padding the Army and building Corps for Generals.
It is about preparing for emergencies that include people shooting.
 
Here lies our current problem with the PRes: Gotta pay the bills somehow.

We offer very little in the way of protection or cushion for folks when we ask them to serve their country on a part time basis. A lot of the people we recruit as reservists are working full time or are students pursuing a degree so they can be employed full time.

I look at the Ontario Government's recent changes to support Reservists and can already see HR departments trying to find loopholes. If we are going to have a Nordic socialist ideal of a "Home Guard" we need to ensure we provide the same sort of safe guards.
Agreed, in Alberta we need to provide 30 days written notice including date we leave and date we will return. Army changes course dates on you less than 30 days out? Well good luck to you cause bow your employer can just say no, and not keep your job.
 
Continuing with my fascination on the subject of Denmark

We have 7x the population but only 5x the wealth. Rich Danish buggers.

With that I took a look at the kit the Danes have and multiplied it by 5.

We would end up with

95x Cesar 155mm SPH (Wheeled)
105x LAV mounted 120mm mortars
220x Leo2A7
220x CV9035
2200x LAVs
890x Armoured HMMWV
75x Jackal

The Navy would end up with

15x Iver Huitfeldt Air Defence Frigates (ABM/Tomahawk Capable)
10x Absalon ASW/Support Frigates (Tank Transport Capable)
20x Thetis Class Frigates
15x Knud Rasmussen Patrol Vessels

The Air Force would end up with

163x F16 (being phased out)
135x F35 (being phased in)
20x Challenger MPA
20x C130J
55x Fennec Helicopters
45x SH-60
70x Merlin/Cormorant

40x NASAMS AD Batteries with 240x launchers
30x Radar Stations

All with a budget of less than 2% of GDP. (1.6 to be precise)
Yep god we're cheap, freeloaders but when CAF leadership is happy with the outputs and growing NDHQ thats what you get. Cant spend $2+B a year because there is no political imperative to do so in fact just the opposite so adding another $2+B a year in unspent funds is just a waste

I think we are probably going to need some sort of expansion or creation of a national emergency response force in addition to the Reserve. Volunteer or not who knows but it should not be that hard to grab 1% of Brads 300,000 + turning military age each year for all our needs. Do we need more than that as a bump up in recruitment? May have to incentivize or get better at marketing
 
How we did it back in the day is irrelevant.

Most people are not interested in delaying their start in life out of the high school gate by two years, especially when called for by people who never faced that liability and never will.

Many people who have the occupational skills needed to fight fires, control floods, repair ice damage, etc are not in any kind of union and like OT. Partly displacing their earning opportunities is a sh!tty thing to do.

If we do the proper thing and leave all the high-speed work to the people with high-speed skills, that leaves shovel work. I'm not sure many people will spend formal time in any kind of "Home Guard" to learn how to dig holes and fill sandbags, and I'm certain no formal training or structure is needed.

So far we've been able to manage our crises, so these solutions - conscripted service, overinflated public welfare emergency militia - are looking for as-yet undemonstrated problems.

If there's more money for defence, spend it on real soldiers and real soldiering.
 
This mob is not asked to serve their country. If they go overseas they have to volunteer and sign a regular short term enlistment contract (typically 6 months) and get covered under that.

These are people voluntarily, freely, at no charge, making themselves available to serve their local community. If they are injured then the local, government funded health care system looks after them. The same way it would if they injured themselves down at the local Sporthalle playing handball.

This is not about padding the Army and building Corps for Generals.
It is about preparing for emergencies that include people shooting.
Not saying it would be. I just was saying that our quasi-capitalist society doesn't lend well to "volunteering." Especially in the last 5 to 10 years.

Look at Canadian Blood Services, Red Cross, St. John's Ambulance.... all are screaming for volunteers but are coming up short. Why? People are working longer hours, for more days, with less pay.

Unless we are in the business of allowing people to come train and volunteer, through legislation and/or incentives for these employers to let folks go... it's much the same problem we see with our PRes.
 
How we did it back in the day is irrelevant.

Most people are not interested in delaying their start in life out of the high school gate by two years, especially when called for by people who never faced that liability and never will.

Many people who have the occupational skills needed to fight fires, control floods, repair ice damage, etc are not in any kind of union and like OT. Partly displacing their earning opportunities is a sh!tty thing to do.

If we do the proper thing and leave all the high-speed work to the people with high-speed skills, that leaves shovel work. I'm not sure many people will spend formal time in any kind of "Home Guard" to learn how to dig holes and fill sandbags, and I'm certain no formal training or structure is needed.

So far we've been able to manage our crises, so these solutions - conscripted service, overinflated public welfare emergency militia - are looking for as-yet undemonstrated problems.

If there's more money for defence, spend it on real soldiers and real soldiering.

This is about people being organized to do what they can when they can as johnny on the spot. Even if it is just forming bucket brigades until the professionals come to save them. With any luck they might have put the fire out before they get their.

And yes Denmark has professional Emergency Services as well.

But still people volunteer...

And others still join the army.

A bigger (per capita) and better equipped army than we provide.
 
Not saying it would be. I just was saying that our quasi-capitalist society doesn't lend well to "volunteering." Especially in the last 5 to 10 years.

Look at Canadian Blood Services, Red Cross, St. John's Ambulance.... all are screaming for volunteers but are coming up short. Why? People are working longer hours, for more days, with less pay.

Unless we are in the business of allowing people to come train and volunteer, through legislation and/or incentives for these employers to let folks go... it's much the same problem we see with our PRes.

We're not talking about two week camps here.

We're talking about heading down to the local armouries for a couple of hours a couple of times a week. This is about teaching skills to people who are eager to learn skills that might come in handy some day.

And if they become interested enough they might volunteer for a short term contract. And then maybe a longer one, Or go onto the Reserve rolls.

This is about connecting with people who might, maybe, someday become a soldier/sailor/aviator/aviatrix.
In the meantime, in local emergencies, they can be put to use, even if it is just directing traffic.
 
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