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Boeing to offer P-8 as CP-140 Replacement

I'm not sure the Japanese are willing (or allowed) to export that.
Japan has been eagerly trying to find an export customer for P-1 for many years.

I've been impressed by P-1 capabilities, but I think spares/parts availability would be a substantial issue for any international operator.
 
Wonder if Bombardier might try to revive Saab Swordfish (Global 6000 airframe):



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Japan has been eagerly trying to find an export customer for P-1 for many years.

I've been impressed by P-1 capabilities, but I think spares/parts availability would be a substantial issue for any international operator.
This part here was interesting.

Jointly building a P-1 that taps into Britain’s experience building the Nimrod would allow London to retain rights over radar and sensing technology it would lose by buying a U.S. aircraft regulated by the Pentagon, one source said.
 
De Havilland launches Dash 8 P-4 maritime patrol aircraft - Air Data News

Or roll on/off maritime patrol kit for a c130 too someone was looking at developing.
"Sea-130" has been proposed many times. No biters yet.


 
Some other interesting fielded (not paper) MPA options that have popped up just in the past 12 months:


 
I'm not sure the Japanese are willing (or allowed) to export that.
They seem to been having a change of heart on arms export, quite willing to market their subs. Selling to a "low risk" country like Canada, would be good for future arms sales and build a relationship to potentially sell us subs.
 
They seem to been having a change of heart on arms export, quite willing to market their subs. Selling to a "low risk" country like Canada, would be good for future arms sales and build a relationship to potentially sell us subs.
Fair.

Still though, the benefits of working off a 737 platform (probably the most common civilian airliner out there) AND having the P-8 adopted by not only all of the other 5-eyes nations, but a bunch of other allied nations, is a big selling point.

Maybe pool logistics/parts/maintenance together or something with the other 5-eyes nations.
 
Some other interesting fielded (not paper) MPA options that have popped up just in the past 12 months:


Viking enters Chat Maritime Mission | Viking's Aerial Firefighter
 
Ok my idea from years ago. When there was talk to save Bombardier. Develop the A200 as a MPA, using Lockheed Canada as prime. :)

Made in Quebec! System intergation in Ontario. Win win

Would the Cyclones systems be transferable, plus add others?

Lockheed needs a MPA product and they are buddies with Airbus right now. Developing a joint tanker LMXT for the next tanker order.

 
Ok my idea from years ago. When there was talk to save Bombardier. Develop the A200 as a MPA, using Lockheed Canada as prime. :)

Made in Quebec! System intergation in Ontario. Win win

Would the Cyclones systems be transferable, plus add others?

Lockheed needs a MPA product and they are buddies with Airbus right now. Developing a joint tanker LMXT for the next tanker order.

Shudders in Cyclone
 
De Havilland launches Dash 8 P-4 maritime patrol aircraft - Air Data News

Or roll on/off maritime patrol kit for a c130 too someone was looking at developing.
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OBE. Longview swung the Dash 8 family back to de Havilland, and as armrdsoul77 notes above, DH and PAL are the latest version of Q400/P4 to be considered for pitching to Canada for CMA. Longview may even throw a bone to QC by asking L3MAS to do some minor work, as L3(Harris) has to date, been the only company to actually make a high-end ISR Q400. de Havilland inherited the work with L3HARRIS from Bombardier.
 
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OBE. Longview swung the Dash 8 family back to de Havilland, and as armrdsoul77 notes above, DH and PAL are the latest version of Q400/P4 to be considered for pitching to Canada for CMA. Longview may even throw a bone to QC by asking L3MAS to do some minor work, as L3(Harris) has to date, been the only company to actually make a high-end ISR Q400. de Havilland inherited the work with L3HARRIS from Bombardier.
This also fits the bill. Made in Canada. Plus I doubt it can carry a weapons load. So that's a bonus our government. Plus the accountants will love as no weapons no cost.
 
Would the Cyclones systems be transferable, plus add others?

Transferable or not, they are not properly sorted out yet or the right gear for a MMA/LRPA. MDMS isn’t a capable or as smooth as DMS (Aurora), the sensors aren’t as capable as Block 3 or 4 Aurora…think about what year the MHWS components were procured; it wasn’t yesterday.

If we’re going to replace a fleet, replace it with something MORE capable than Block 3 is/Block 4 will be.

Take a look at the P-1 radar. That’s the type of replacement we should be looking to; modern sensors that can add to the network centric warfare model that are on a faster, more reliable vehicle.
 
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